Comments on: The Association of Bloggers Singapore – FAIL or StillBorn http://jerricklim.com/?p=477 The Personal and Highly Provocative Ramblings of Jerrick Lim Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:48:57 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jerrick http://jerricklim.com/?p=477&cpage=1#comment-404 Jerrick Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:53:57 +0000 http://jerricklim.com/?p=477#comment-404 I'm am incredibly heartened by your responses. It is not easy to start something, faux pas will be committed and wrongs will be eventually be righted. But is this reason to write something off even before it has gotten off the ground. I think that such a response will necessarily be irrational and reflexive. Hardly reflective of our best interests. I’m am incredibly heartened by your responses. It is not easy to start something, faux pas will be committed and wrongs will be eventually be righted. But is this reason to write something off even before it has gotten off the ground. I think that such a response will necessarily be irrational and reflexive. Hardly reflective of our best interests.

]]> By: football fan http://jerricklim.com/?p=477&cpage=1#comment-403 football fan Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:32:10 +0000 http://jerricklim.com/?p=477#comment-403 http://dotseng.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/does-aunty-ecl-blend-the-day-we-became-animals-and-ate-our-own/ They have taken sides. The mountain has moved! http://dotseng.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/does-aunty-ecl-blend-the-day-we-became-animals-and-ate-our-own/

They have taken sides. The mountain has moved!

]]> By: lycan2046 http://jerricklim.com/?p=477&cpage=1#comment-402 lycan2046 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:49:10 +0000 http://jerricklim.com/?p=477#comment-402 Sorry, the last part should read: " it is a concern among some of my ‘conspiracy theorist’ friends that certain opinion may be throttled when it is not in favor of those who formed these communities. " Sorry, the last part should read:

” it is a concern among some of my ‘conspiracy theorist’ friends that certain opinion may be throttled when it is not in favor of those who formed these communities. “

]]> By: lycan2046 http://jerricklim.com/?p=477&cpage=1#comment-401 lycan2046 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:47:07 +0000 http://jerricklim.com/?p=477#comment-401 Originally I clicked with dread when I saw your post as an incoming link. I was expecting either a tirade against what I have written, criticism of my views, yet even more derisive views about ABS or another session of 'flogging the dead dog'. But I am glad I was wrong because this is a well written blog post. Between some of my friends and I, we had some hopes for ABS as it is one of the few (may not be the first) Singaporean driven attempt at a bloggers community. While it really doesn't matter whether a foreigner forms the community (and I am sad ABS seems to take on a xenophobic note after the initial comment to the press), among some of my 'conspiracy theorist' friends that certain opinion may be throttled when it is not in favor of those who formed these communities. Originally I clicked with dread when I saw your post as an incoming link. I was expecting either a tirade against what I have written, criticism of my views, yet even more derisive views about ABS or another session of ‘flogging the dead dog’. But I am glad I was wrong because this is a well written blog post. Between some of my friends and I, we had some hopes for ABS as it is one of the few (may not be the first) Singaporean driven attempt at a bloggers community. While it really doesn’t matter whether a foreigner forms the community (and I am sad ABS seems to take on a xenophobic note after the initial comment to the press), among some of my ‘conspiracy theorist’ friends that certain opinion may be throttled when it is not in favor of those who formed these communities.

]]> By: diediemusttry http://jerricklim.com/?p=477&cpage=1#comment-400 diediemusttry Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:52:44 +0000 http://jerricklim.com/?p=477#comment-400 I agree completely with your statement, "Why tear down something that with collaboration and cooperation will turn out to be a unifying force for local blogitics. I cannot understand this derision." To be honest with you. I have nothing in favor or against ECL. Some say she deserved it. However, I still believe our blogosphere was especially cruel to her. Then to add salt to injury the slew of resignations that followed did not help either. Why bother to join and then resign just on the first sign of trouble? Neither did it help very much when some of the protem members began to clarify in their own capacity. That just came across as very divided and silly. Plus the patchy information release only made things worse. What really surprised me was how so many big bloggers did nothing. Some like Mr Wang even put petrol to the fire. Others just watched it burn by the wayside. The only ones who really came in to try to smooth matters were the brotherhood. The unlikeliest of the lot. If you ask me. They did a good job of clarifying the salient and setting matters straight. But how much can they do as bystanders? They were cautious. They should have gone further. But fell short of the mark. From what I can make out. They were the only ones who responded to the SOS. Had the other big bloggers come in to help them, they could have closed the front and back end. But when allegations started surfacing they had a vested interested and might be helping ECL for an ulterior motive. Even they started to pull back in a big way. This will go down as a sad chapter in our blogosphere history. Sometimes our blogosphere really scares me. I hope ECL and Winfrid will hang in there for what its worth. Dont be surprise if public opinion in the net even shifts and goes the other way. I agree completely with your statement, “Why tear down something that with collaboration and cooperation will turn out to be a unifying force for local blogitics. I cannot understand this derision.”

To be honest with you. I have nothing in favor or against ECL. Some say she deserved it. However, I still believe our blogosphere was especially cruel to her. Then to add salt to injury the slew of resignations that followed did not help either. Why bother to join and then resign just on the first sign of trouble? Neither did it help very much when some of the protem members began to clarify in their own capacity. That just came across as very divided and silly. Plus the patchy information release only made things worse. What really surprised me was how so many big bloggers did nothing. Some like Mr Wang even put petrol to the fire. Others just watched it burn by the wayside.

The only ones who really came in to try to smooth matters were the brotherhood. The unlikeliest of the lot. If you ask me. They did a good job of clarifying the salient and setting matters straight. But how much can they do as bystanders? They were cautious. They should have gone further. But fell short of the mark. From what I can make out. They were the only ones who responded to the SOS. Had the other big bloggers come in to help them, they could have closed the front and back end.

But when allegations started surfacing they had a vested interested and might be helping ECL for an ulterior motive. Even they started to pull back in a big way.

This will go down as a sad chapter in our blogosphere history. Sometimes our blogosphere really scares me. I hope ECL and Winfrid will hang in there for what its worth. Dont be surprise if public opinion in the net even shifts and goes the other way.

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